Tololy's Box

Most people who commit suicide do not do it because they’re living a philosophical conflict. They’re just very despressed. Some of them who surviive the attempt recover from depression and regret that they ever tried to kill themselves.
I don’t think it’s a reflection of a philosophical struggle, it’s a reflection of an underlying mental problem.

Maybe the finale of self-awareness? I don’t know it this is a cliche, but it seems a selfish thing to do.

I see your points…but if we are going to die anyway, argue some, why not do it by our own terms? Isn’t that the only thing we can truly control in an otherwise chaotic, absurd world?

I don’t know if this qualifies for a cliché but once I heard someone characterize suicide as a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

Well, you didn’t come to life by your choice or by your terms; why do you think it’s your right to end it by your terms! Besides am not sure if you do believe in life after death, for me I believe it will be in hell for the one who kills himself.
Am sorry you probably meant that when you said ‘no clichés’ but it’s the first thing I thought of when you asked your question in your comment.
Now about the idea of suicidal itself I think it’s a desperate solution taken in the very wrong moment by someone who can’t think of another one due to lack of experience, patience, wisdom, motive and above all faith.
Again am sorry for -maybe-’saying stuff that everyone repeats’.

Let me continue to quote Camus:

“Suicide has never been dealt with except as a social phenomenon. … In a sense, and as in melodrama, killing yourself amounts to confessing. It is confessing that life is too much for you or that you do not understand it. Living, naturally, is never easy. You continue making the gestures commanded by existence for many reasons, the first of which is habit. Dying voluntarily implies that you have recognized, even instinctively, the ridiculous character of that habit, the absence of any profound reason for living, the insane character of that daily agitation, and the uselessness of suffering.”

by someone who can’t think of another one due to lack of experience, patience, wisdom, motive and above all faith.

actually sometimes its too much faith, oh but thats no longer called suicide for some reason.

Suicide is an extremely nihilistic solution to life. you basically see it as having only one choice that you can truly own, and that is dying. Everything else in your life has been determined by your environment, and others and you had little say in it.
Suicide becomes a valid choice when a philosophy devalues human life in favor for an imaginary one. If the point of suicide was reached due to philosophical introspection then there is actually some positive aspects to it, because in a post-nihilistic philosophy you moral values will transcend the slave morality.

then again this is pretty cliche … atleast it is if you like Nietzsche

We don’t kill purselves because we love life more than we imagine, we love its mysteries and we always look forward to what the future holds for us.

To add to the flood of falsafeh in here,If I understood the quote correctly Tololy,we’d all agree that it has a very grim perspective.
What if one’s life was not full of “habit”, what if it was adventurous? or is it that habit also applies to any activity as long as it is done regularly? hmmmm

No grim thoughts Tololy,who am I gonna pick on when ur gone P

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